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Unraveling the Ebionite Perspective on Paul: A Complex Portrait of Apostasy

In the early days of Jewish Christian history, the Ebionites emerge as torchbearers of a unique viewpoint on the Apostle Paul, challenging established narratives that later became the bedrock of Catholic Orthodoxy.

Hyam Maccoby introduces a fascinating proposition, suggesting that Paul might have been a Hellenized Jewish convert whose background exposed him to the influences of Gnosticism and pagan mystery religions such as the Attis cult. Maccoby contends that these prevalent mystery religions in the Hellenistic world significantly shaped Paul’s mythological psychology.

The Ebionites, rejecting the Pauline Epistles, perceived Paul as an apostate from the law, and understanding their historical context is paramount to comprehending the depth of their opposition. Scholarsly consensus categorizes the Ebionites as a Jewish-Christian sect, some say the most authentic witness to the historical Jesus.

The Ebionites followed the Jewish traditions as well as regarding Jesus as a Prophet advocating for the end of Temple Sacrifices—a mere man born to Mary and Joseph, who was his physical father. They maintained fidelity to Jewish law, emphasizing practices such as dietary laws, circumcision, shabbat, the festivals, and other Jewish customs.

A pivotal tenet of Ebionite belief was their rejection of Pauline teachings, branding the Apostle as an apostate, and disagreeing with his view that Gentiles could be included without adherence to Jewish rituals of mikveh and circumcision. Scholars show a connection between the Ebionites and early Jerusalem leaders, namely—James, Peter, and John.

This sect is often viewed as a continuation of the original Jewish-Christian community in Jerusalem. Associated with a unique Hebrew Gospel, the “Ebionite Gospel,” fragments and references remain in early Christian writings. Simon, identified as the brother of James and Jesus, emerges as an early Ebionite leader, succeeding James in leading the Jerusalem Synagogue.

Additional facets of Ebionite practice include asceticism, which they adopted from the Essenes, abstaining from meat and wine, influenced by a rigorous interpretation of Jewish laws. Ebionite Christology, can be described as adoptionist, they posit that Jesus became a Prophet at his baptism, denouncing temple sacrifice—an ideology that influenced their dietary choices. There is evidence of interaction and influence from the Ebionites upon Rabbinic Judaism, potentially impacting the development of Rabbinic Jewish thought.

Ebionites, a sect within early Jewish Christianity, held a distinct perspective on Paul, rejecting his Epistles and viewing him as an “apostate from the law.” According to the accounts of Origen, they may have been linked to the “super-apostles,” influential Jewish Christian followers of Jesus who advocated for mandatory circumcision of converts, Paul sought to undermine their teachings in regions like Galatia, Corinth and elsewhere.

Epiphanius of Salamis, an early bishop, provides further insights into the Ebionite stance against Paul. They opposed him for propagating the idea that Gentile Christians were exempt from circumcision and adherence to the Law of Moses, labeling him an apostate. Some Ebionites even claimed that Paul, originally a Greek who converted to Judaism, apostatized after being rejected by the daughter of a high priest of Israel.

Within the broader context of Christian history, the concept of the Great Apostasy takes center stage. It characterizes the perception that mainstream Orthodox Catholicism deviated from the original faith established by Jesus and propagated by his twelve Apostles. The Ebionites see Paul’s writings as key factors in this apostasy, challenging the traditional narrative of his role in shaping early Christianity. That Apostasy was made to be the prominent thing.

In the Toledot Yeshu, the name Yeshu is interpreted by some to mean yimakh shemo, emphasizing its association with acts or behaviors perceived as leading Jews away from Judaism into minuth, commonly translated as “heresy” or “apostasy.” This historical perspective sheds light on the portrayal of Jesus in the Talmud and Jewish literature, namely that of Simon Magus, of whom many believe was either the Apostle Paul or one of his associates lead the apostasy.

The Ebionite view of Paul provides a compelling lens to reexamine his impact upon early Christian thought. Maccoby’s exploration of Paul’s hellenistic background, coupled with the Ebionite rejection of his teachings as Apostasy, adds to the historical understanding. As we unravel the intricate dynamics between Paul, the Ebionites, and the broader early Christian landscape, we gain a nuanced understanding of the influences shaped the theological underpinings that was used to later invent Christianity as we know it.



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The Pulling the Threads Podcast’s primary objective is to study and analyze Jesus within his Jewish context through the lens of Judaism before Christianity. Our primary objective is to study and analyze Jesus within his Jewish context, specifically from a pre-Christianity perspective. Seeking a Jewish Reclamation of Jesus, relying on Jewish and secular biblical scholars who specialize in Second Temple Judaism, the Qumran community, the Parting of Ways around 90 CE, the Historical Jesus, and Textual Criticism. Some notable scholars mentioned include Geza Vermes, Hyam Maccoby, Alan Segal, Carol Harris-Shapiro, Lawrence Kushner, Samuel Sandmel, Bart Ehrman, James Tabor, Robert Eisenman, Paula Frederiksen, and Hugh Schonfield.

The site aims to approach the New Testament using the historical-critical method and textual criticism within the realm of secular Jewish scholarship, reflecting the perspectives of mainstream Judaism today. Engaging in scholarly and polemical discussions, the group seeks to question and challenge established Christian doctrines. The main goal is to establish an independent Jewish understanding of Jesus, emphasizing his significance within a Jewish context and distancing him from centuries of Christian interpretations. Furthermore, the group aims to conduct a comprehensive historical examination of Jesus, employing textual criticism to counter Christianity’s claims regarding the New Testament. The focus is on understanding Jesus within Judaism based on the Torah and Talmud.

This is about Jewish and Secular Scholarship into the New Testament using the Historical Critical method and Textual Criticism within Jewish scholarship. For us Jews, the Tanakh and Talmud inform our view of scripture. In the modern age, as Jews, we struggle with texts with an academic approach. The site is pro-Tanakh and will explore history, archaeology, and textual criticism to comprehend the development of the Jesus movement before the parting of ways with Judaism. It aims to emphasize that Jesus and his followers were seen as Jewish and part of Judaism, and that the conversion of Gentiles to Judaism by the community of James and Peter continued, with some Jewish followers remaining distinctly Jewish for centuries. It is important to note that this is not a study of Jewish-Christians, but rather an examination of Jews who followed Jesus within Judaism before the emergence of Christianity. Anti-Judaism is not welcome in this group, which focuses on Jewish perspectives within an academic framework.

This is an attempt to work out the Jewish Reclamation of Jesus, trying to understand him within Judaism before Christianity existed. The group’s objective is to understand Jesus within Judaism before the influence of Christian perspectives during the historical Jesus movement. It seeks to reclaim Jesus within Judaism, separate from Christianity, Messianic, or Hebrew Roots movements. The study incorporates textual criticism, historical Jesus research, and Jewish scholarship into the New Testament to assert the following beliefs:

  • The New Testament lacks historical accuracy.
  • The New Testament is not divinely inspired.
  • The New Testament has not been divinely preserved.
  • The New Testament was written by individuals decades and even millennia after the events it portrays.
  • Original autographs of the New Testament do not exist.
  • Consequently, the New Testament is not the most reliable source for understanding the historical Jesus as a Jewish figure.
  • To ascertain historical accuracy, we rely on modern Jewish and secular scholarship and engage in historical reconstruction.
  • Through textual criticism, we strive to identify the potentially most authentic sayings of Jesus, following the Q hypothesis in relation to the synoptic gospels.
  • The New Testament bears the influence of Roman culture and language, making it a non-Jewish text with glimpses of Jewish source material.
  • Greco-Roman influences, including Hellenistic, Stoic, Gnostic, and paganistic elements (e.g., Zoroastrianism) and the Roman imperial cult, have shaped New Testament ideas of salvation and hell in a manner contrary to Jewish tradition, resulting in a narrative distinct from the Jewish religion.
  • Both Jewish and secular scholarship acknowledge approximately 500,000 textual errors among the 5,800 New Testament manuscripts. These variations include theological revisions that were added by later editors and were not believed by the original followers.
  • The seven most authentic epistles of Paul were written prior to the gospels, with the gospels reflecting the addition of Pauline theology.
  • Jesus might have been an actual person, with the only point of agreement among Jewish scholars being that he was baptized by John for the repentance of sins and was crucified.
  • Jewish scholars concur that Jesus was not born of a virgin, was not resurrected, is not a savior, may be considered a false prophet, and failed as the Messiah.
  • Judaism represents the religion of Jesus, while Christianity is a religion centered around Jesus.
  • The term “Jewish-Christian,” used to describe the early understanding of Jesus in Judaism, is a misnomer.

Understanding Jesus within Judaism can aid us in grappling with a culture in which Christianity has altered the Jewish message. Given the history of crusades, pogroms, the Holocaust, and inquisitions that have harmed the Jewish people, recognizing Jesus within a Jewish context becomes crucial.

The Catholic Church, in Nostra Aetate, ceased evangelizing Jews and acknowledged them as a covenant people within Judaism. In response, Jewish scholars released Dibre Emet, recognizing the place of Righteous Gentiles, including the offspring of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, in Olam HaBa (the world to come). While agreement may not be necessary, it is important to foster understanding and coexistence.

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