The Pulling the Thread Podcast

Jesus the Jew within Judaism – Tracing Jesus Beyond Christianity – A Jewish Reclamation of Jesus!


Who Was Bar’Abbas: Was His Story an Interpolation by the Marcionite Community or was Bar’Abbas Jesus Son?

The narrative of Barabbas in the Gospels, analyzed by scholars who present a perplexing and potentially fabricated account. The gospels describe a scenario where Pontius Pilate seemingly allowed the populace to choose between releasing Barabbas and Jesus, prompting doubt about its historical accuracy. This skepticism extends to Pontius Pilate’s portrayal, challenging the plausibility of yielding to a small unarmed crowd and the absence of the alleged custom of “privilegium Paschale.”

In his book “Appointment in Jerusalem,” Max Dimont challenges the credibility of the Barabbas story, raising doubts about its plausibility within both Roman and Jewish contexts. Dimont focuses on several aspects that contribute to his skepticism.

Firstly, he questions the portrayal of Pontius Pilate, the Roman governor, who, backed by military might, is depicted as yielding to a small unarmed crowd. This portrayal seems incongruent with the historical reality of Roman authority in that era. The Roman governors, especially in a volatile region like Judea, would typically have exercised firm control and not succumbed to the demands of a relatively small and unarmed group.

Secondly, Dimont highlights the absence of the alleged custom of “privilegium Paschale” outside the Gospels. This custom, as described in the biblical narrative, involves the governor releasing a prisoner during the Passover festival at the request of the people. Dimont questions the historical validity of such a custom, emphasizing that it lacks support or mention in other historical records beyond the Gospel accounts.

By scrutinizing these elements, Dimont suggests that the Barabbas story may be a literary or theological construct rather than an accurate historical account. The incongruity in depicting Pilate’s behavior and the absence of corroborating evidence for the purported custom raise doubts about the narrative’s authenticity and its alignment with the political and social realities of the time.

The examination of the Barabbas narrative by Lincoln, Leigh, and Baigent in “Holy Blood, Holy Grail” unveils a perplexing and enigmatic aspect of the Gospels. The authors contend that the narrative was crafted to shift culpability onto the Jews for the death of Jesus. In the Barabbas story, a choice is presented to the crowd between Jesus and Barabbas, a notorious criminal. This choice, they argue, creates a symbolic scenario where the Jewish crowd is seemingly complicit in choosing a criminal over Jesus, thus shouldering the blame for Jesus’s crucifixion.

Raymond E. Brown, a prominent biblical scholar, in his work “Death of the Messiah,” contributes to the skepticism surrounding the Barabbas story. Brown questions the historical authenticity of the narrative, casting doubt on its accuracy in reflecting the events of Jesus’s crucifixion.

Brown, while acknowledging the possibility of a prisoner named Barabbas being released during Jesus’s crucifixion, does not necessarily endorse the complete historical reliability. His skepticism stems from a critical analysis of the textual and historical aspects surrounding the Barabbas episode.

Biblical scholars like Brown engage in textual criticism, historical context analysis, and linguistic scrutiny to assess the reliability of biblical narratives. In the case of Barabbas, Brown may question elements such as the plausibility of Roman authorities allowing the crowd to choose a prisoner for release during a major festival, the absence of corroborating historical evidence, and potential theological motives behind the narrative construction.

The translation of Matthew 27:15 introduces a layer of complexity to the Barabbas narrative, as it frames Pilate’s choice as between “Jesus Barabbas” or “Jesus who is called the Messiah.” The deliberate use of language, with “Barabbas” meaning ‘son of the father,’ adds a nuanced and intriguing dimension to the decision-making process.

The intentional ambiguity in presenting both figures with the name Jesus introduces the possibility of a symbolic choice between Jesus the Messiah and Jesus, the son of the father—potentially suggesting a metaphorical decision between different aspects or roles of Jesus himself.

Scholars explore the intriguing possibility that Barabbas, designated as ‘son of the rabbi,’ could be Jesus’ son. This speculation delves into the realm of symbolic interpretation, considering whether the choice presented to the crowd represents more than a mere selection between two individuals but rather a theological or allegorical decision. The notion that Barabbas might be Jesus’ son introduces a speculative element into the narrative, prompting scholars to delve into symbolic interpretations and explore the potential implications of such a reading.

Scholarly inquiry into the Barabbas narrative reveals a debate regarding its authenticity, with some scholars suggesting potential fabrication. There is an argument that the Barabbas episode has been treated with insufficient consideration, potentially diminishing its significance in the broader narrative.

By scrutinizing the narrative in the Barabbas story, highlighting the unsettling statement attributed to the crowd in Matthew 27:23, where they proclaim, “His blood shall be on us and on our children.” Scholars who acknowledge the likely historicity of Jesus’s baptism and crucifixion, nevertheless, contend that Barabbas was added as an element with antisemitic undertones. This perspective suggests that the inclusion of Barabbas in the narrative contributed to historical antisemitism by framing Jews as responsible for Jesus’s crucifixion—a concept known as Jewish deicide.

The argument revolves around the idea that the Barabbas story, with its portrayal of the crowd choosing a criminal over Jesus, could reinforce negative stereotypes and contribute to an unjust blame placed on the Jewish community for the crucifixion. Scholars exploring this angle often emphasize the need for a careful examination of biblical texts to discern elements that might perpetuate harmful stereotypes or prejudices.

A minority of scholars, including Benjamin Urrutia, Stevan Davies “Who is called Bar Abbas,” Hyam Maccoby “Jesus and Barabbas” / “Revolution in Judea,” and Horace Abram Rigg “Barabbas,” propose an unconventional perspective – suggesting that Barabbas and Jesus might be the same person. This dissenting view challenges the conventional understanding of the Barabbas narrative, offering an intriguing dimension to scholarly discourse.

In John 18:40, the label ‘robber’ is applied to Barabbas using the Greek term ‘lestai.’ This term, ‘lestai,’ carries historical and political connotations, associating Barabbas with the zealots led by Judas the Galilean. The zealots were a faction known for their resistance against Roman rule and were often involved in acts of rebellion.

By using ‘lestai,’ the Gospel implies that Barabbas was not just a common criminal but likely a political insurgent or revolutionary, aligning him with the fervent anti-Roman sentiments of the zealots. This choice of terminology deepens the intrigue surrounding Barabbas, making his role in the narrative more than that of a mere criminal, but rather a figure entangled in the complex socio-political landscape of the time.

Contrary views propose that Barabbas and Jesus might be the same person. Scholars like Benjamin Urrutia challenge the conventional narrative, suggesting Rabbi Yeshua Bar Abba as the historical Jesus leading a successful nonviolent resistance against Pontius Pilate’s attempt to install Roman eagles on Jerusalem’s Temple Mount. Urrutia draws on Josephus’s account, linking the resistance leader to Jesus’s subsequent crucifixion, though acknowledging potential alterations to Josephus’s text over time.

According to the authors of “Holy Blood,” the Barabbas story effectively achieved its deceptive purpose by obscuring the switch between Judas and Jesus, unfairly blaming the Jews, and weaving a narrative fraught with confusion and profound theological consequences.

Urrutia challenges the common narrative of Jesus’s baptism, insisting that the Gospel of the Hebrews portrays a more authentic version where Jesus reluctantly agrees to the suggestion from his mother and brothers. This version, he argues, aligns with the Criterion of Embarrassment and is likely rooted in authentic family traditions within the community producing the Gospel.

A Talmudic legend, cited by Urrutia, he envisions the King Messiah binding his wounds among the homeless poor at the gates of Rome, challenging the expectation of a future coming by emphasizing the Messiah’s presence among the marginalized.

In analyzing Chapter 8 of the Gospel of John, Urrutia questions the authenticity of a segment where “the Jews who believed in Jesus” claim never to have been slaves, pointing out discrepancies with mainstream rabbinic traditions. He suggests this portion may be a fictional creation by an editor unfamiliar with Jewish culture, emphasizing the need for a nuanced understanding of the text’s context and potential redaction.

Barabbas, as per the New Testament, was a prisoner chosen over Jesus for release by the crowd during the Passover feast under Roman governor Pontius Pilate. Matthew notes his full name as Jesus Barabbas, meaning “Jesus, son of the father.” A violent rebel inciting insurrection against Roman occupation, Barabbas was depicted as a popular figure. In the trial scene, Jesus may have been presented before Pilate twice, first as “Jesus Barabbas” and later as “Jesus Christ.”

The name Barabbas could derive from the Aramaic “bar abba,” meaning “son of the father.” It is possible Jesus sought to take the place of his son who was a rebel leader. Scholars like Simcha Jacobovici and Charles Pellegrino suggest Aramaic inscriptions in the “Tomb of Jesus” connect Jesus, Mary Magdalene, and their son Judah. The Jesus Seminar, couldn’t confirm a marital relationship between Jesus and Mary Magdalene due to insufficient evidence. They viewed Mary Magdalene not as a repentant prostitute but as a significant disciple and authority in the early Christian community.

The notion of Jesus and Mary Magdalene fleeing to France echoes legends of disciples traveling to distant lands, akin to Joseph of Arimathea’s supposed journey to England. In 2014, Simcha Jacobovici and Barrie Wilson proposed that the characters in a 6th-century tale, “Joseph and Aseneth,” symbolize Jesus and Mary Magdalene, interpreting it as an allegory of their marriage. This view, suggesting Jesus’s marriage and offspring, is deemed serious-minded and thought-provoking by Israeli Biblical scholar Rivka Nir.

In conclusion, scholarly inquiry into the Barabbas narrative suggests a potential invention post-Marcion, with debates over its significance and its potential contribution to antisemitism. Skepticism regarding its historical authenticity and credibility, particularly emphasized by scholars like Max Dimont and Raymond E. Brown, challenges the conventional understanding of this biblical account. The unconventional proposal that Barabbas and Jesus might be the same person, put forth by a minority of scholars including Benjamin Urrutia, adds an intriguing dimension to the discourse. Urrutia’s unique perspective posits Rabbi Yeshua Bar Abba as the historical Jesus, leading a nonviolent resistance against Pontius Pilate. Additionally, Urrutia’s examination of the Gospel of John and the Talmudic legend challenges certain aspects of the traditional narrative. The complexities surrounding the Barabbas story extend to broader discussions on Jesus’s baptism, potential marital relationships, and allegorical interpretations, generating ongoing scholarly scrutiny and debate within the academic community.



Leave a comment

Podcast available on Spotify, Stitcher, Pandora, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, Audible, TuneIn, iHeartRadio, Deezer, Radio Public, Cast Box, and many more…

About The Pulling the Thread Podcast

Pulling the Thread is a captivating podcast that delves into a plethora of thought-provoking topics. With its engaging episodes and insightful discussions, it offers a fresh perspective on various subjects, serving as a valuable source of inspiration and knowledge. Whether you’re a seasoned podcast enthusiast or a curious newcomer, Pulling the Thread guarantees to captivate your mind and keep you coming back for more. So, gear up and embark on an intellectual journey with this exceptional podcast!

The Pulling the Threads Podcast’s primary objective is to study and analyze Jesus within his Jewish context through the lens of Judaism before Christianity. Our primary objective is to study and analyze Jesus within his Jewish context, specifically from a pre-Christianity perspective. Seeking a Jewish Reclamation of Jesus, relying on Jewish and secular biblical scholars who specialize in Second Temple Judaism, the Qumran community, the Parting of Ways around 90 CE, the Historical Jesus, and Textual Criticism. Some notable scholars mentioned include Geza Vermes, Hyam Maccoby, Alan Segal, Carol Harris-Shapiro, Lawrence Kushner, Samuel Sandmel, Bart Ehrman, James Tabor, Robert Eisenman, Paula Frederiksen, and Hugh Schonfield.

The site aims to approach the New Testament using the historical-critical method and textual criticism within the realm of secular Jewish scholarship, reflecting the perspectives of mainstream Judaism today. Engaging in scholarly and polemical discussions, the group seeks to question and challenge established Christian doctrines. The main goal is to establish an independent Jewish understanding of Jesus, emphasizing his significance within a Jewish context and distancing him from centuries of Christian interpretations. Furthermore, the group aims to conduct a comprehensive historical examination of Jesus, employing textual criticism to counter Christianity’s claims regarding the New Testament. The focus is on understanding Jesus within Judaism based on the Torah and Talmud.

This is about Jewish and Secular Scholarship into the New Testament using the Historical Critical method and Textual Criticism within Jewish scholarship. For us Jews, the Tanakh and Talmud inform our view of scripture. In the modern age, as Jews, we struggle with texts with an academic approach. The site is pro-Tanakh and will explore history, archaeology, and textual criticism to comprehend the development of the Jesus movement before the parting of ways with Judaism. It aims to emphasize that Jesus and his followers were seen as Jewish and part of Judaism, and that the conversion of Gentiles to Judaism by the community of James and Peter continued, with some Jewish followers remaining distinctly Jewish for centuries. It is important to note that this is not a study of Jewish-Christians, but rather an examination of Jews who followed Jesus within Judaism before the emergence of Christianity. Anti-Judaism is not welcome in this group, which focuses on Jewish perspectives within an academic framework.

This is an attempt to work out the Jewish Reclamation of Jesus, trying to understand him within Judaism before Christianity existed. The group’s objective is to understand Jesus within Judaism before the influence of Christian perspectives during the historical Jesus movement. It seeks to reclaim Jesus within Judaism, separate from Christianity, Messianic, or Hebrew Roots movements. The study incorporates textual criticism, historical Jesus research, and Jewish scholarship into the New Testament to assert the following beliefs:

  • The New Testament lacks historical accuracy.
  • The New Testament is not divinely inspired.
  • The New Testament has not been divinely preserved.
  • The New Testament was written by individuals decades and even millennia after the events it portrays.
  • Original autographs of the New Testament do not exist.
  • Consequently, the New Testament is not the most reliable source for understanding the historical Jesus as a Jewish figure.
  • To ascertain historical accuracy, we rely on modern Jewish and secular scholarship and engage in historical reconstruction.
  • Through textual criticism, we strive to identify the potentially most authentic sayings of Jesus, following the Q hypothesis in relation to the synoptic gospels.
  • The New Testament bears the influence of Roman culture and language, making it a non-Jewish text with glimpses of Jewish source material.
  • Greco-Roman influences, including Hellenistic, Stoic, Gnostic, and paganistic elements (e.g., Zoroastrianism) and the Roman imperial cult, have shaped New Testament ideas of salvation and hell in a manner contrary to Jewish tradition, resulting in a narrative distinct from the Jewish religion.
  • Both Jewish and secular scholarship acknowledge approximately 500,000 textual errors among the 5,800 New Testament manuscripts. These variations include theological revisions that were added by later editors and were not believed by the original followers.
  • The seven most authentic epistles of Paul were written prior to the gospels, with the gospels reflecting the addition of Pauline theology.
  • Jesus might have been an actual person, with the only point of agreement among Jewish scholars being that he was baptized by John for the repentance of sins and was crucified.
  • Jewish scholars concur that Jesus was not born of a virgin, was not resurrected, is not a savior, may be considered a false prophet, and failed as the Messiah.
  • Judaism represents the religion of Jesus, while Christianity is a religion centered around Jesus.
  • The term “Jewish-Christian,” used to describe the early understanding of Jesus in Judaism, is a misnomer.

Understanding Jesus within Judaism can aid us in grappling with a culture in which Christianity has altered the Jewish message. Given the history of crusades, pogroms, the Holocaust, and inquisitions that have harmed the Jewish people, recognizing Jesus within a Jewish context becomes crucial.

The Catholic Church, in Nostra Aetate, ceased evangelizing Jews and acknowledged them as a covenant people within Judaism. In response, Jewish scholars released Dibre Emet, recognizing the place of Righteous Gentiles, including the offspring of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, in Olam HaBa (the world to come). While agreement may not be necessary, it is important to foster understanding and coexistence.

Newsletter